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Emg · 12-01-2007, 06:52 PM

The lady I was going to get the tank from, gave me some coral instead. Ironic as it would be....the guy who bought the tank, didn't really want the coral....

Just the rock and system...he was buying it for his wife for Christmas.....(yeah, RIGHT ! we all know how that goes...hehe)

Anyway, I picked out a few items...and she took some out as well. She has a little 10gallon for her son that she wants to keep going.

Here's what I picked....not much, just a few things. There was alot of stiff type hair algae and weird marroon bubble algae that I didn't want to add to my tanks, so I was picky......

Just some white polyp type coral and a nice trio of hammer coral ! The only hammers she had in the tank...I made a beeline for it...hehe

They're still a little pouty from the move......I also picked out some yellow green colored mushroom of some type....which I havn't taken pics of yet. That stuff is on a larger rock that has the bubble and hair stuff on it....it's sitting in a 5 gallon with some polythoa type coral I picked out as well. Once it heals up and starts looking spiffy again I'll see if I can chip it off that rock before I had it to either of my tanks

I also connected with the science teacher at the local HS....he has a running science project propagating coral. There's an 800 gallon tank setup somewhere at the school and LOTS of coral frags to choose from. He's invited me to see his system and do some shopping.....ooooo....can't wait !

Hope to have more coral to take pics of come Monday !

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wesleydnunder · 12-01-2007, 07:28 PM

Nice acquisitions, Emg. That tank is really lookin' sweet.

Mark

Emg · 12-01-2007, 07:32 PM

Thanks Mark, it is coming along nicely ! I'm looking forward to seeing what Jon has for me on Monday. I'd like to add some more colorful coral in there. I know he has a bunch of zoanthids....we'll see....

Emg · 12-01-2007, 07:42 PM

Heck, why not.......

a pic of the two tanks as they are now......minus the new coral....took this pic the other day, before I picked up the coral...

wesleydnunder · 12-01-2007, 07:43 PM

I'm so jealous.

Mark

Emg · 12-01-2007, 07:48 PM

Well Mark....feed the need with a little 15 for now...... won't cost you much. I don't have any fancy equipment on that tank.....just a HOB filter (no media or anything, just for water movement), couple of motors off some intank whispers for powerheads....heater, that's it !

I LOVE the color of that coraline in the 15 ! What I have in the 29 is mostly a marroonish color with some dark type of macro growing on it. Not nearly as pretty as the purple.

joephys · 12-01-2007, 07:56 PM

I'm jealous too, my 20 gallon is looking pretty nasty right now. I would post a pick but its Embarrassing.

Emg · 12-01-2007, 07:57 PM

How about a phosban reactor Joe ? Might give that a try....

Also...do you use tap or Ro/Di water ?

Oh...do you feed frozen foods ? Check out this thread here.... Reef Central Online Community - Phosphate in frozen food

joephys · 12-01-2007, 08:34 PM

I might try using some phosphate media. I am using RO water, but its from the grocery store water, so I don't know how good it really is. I haven't put anything back into the tank since I killed almost everything off. The only thing in there is are one or 2 hermits and 1 or 2 snails. There is plenty of algae in there for them to eat. I haven't really been doing much of anything to the tank, but the algae keeps on growing. I was thinking of adding a couple of turbo snails and seeing if they help clean things up.

OrionGirl · 12-01-2007, 10:16 PM

TDS meter? That will tell you if the RO/DI is good. I know the grocery store dispensers here don't get the membranes replaced often enough--the water tastes awful, which to me means something ain't right with it.

joephys · 12-01-2007, 10:55 PM

Well, they put stickers on the ones here saying when they were last serviced. How well of a service is preformed, who knows. I don't have a TDS meter, maybe I should get one.

OrionGirl · 12-01-2007, 11:28 PM

There are stickers on the ones here. The problem? They're replaced on a calendar schedule, not on a gallon schedule. So they get replaced every 6 months--even if they quit working 6000 gallons ago.

Emg · 12-02-2007, 02:20 PM

I'd say it would have to be your water source Joe......maybe you should just try your tap...couldn't be any worse I suppose...

Take some tap water down to an lfs and see if they'll measure your TDS for you....

OrionGirl · 12-02-2007, 03:31 PM

And I'm sorry, but I have to note that I just NOW figured out that these are new additions.

Emg · 12-02-2007, 05:23 PM

Too funny OG......

Here's some pics of what I have in a 5 gallon qt for now. Not because I'm worried about parasites or anything.......the tank was running for 10 years with no issues of that sort. I just don't want any of that bubble or hair algae in my tanks !

a couple of somewhat unhappy shrooms....recovering from the move...

These two yellows are on one rock which is inhabited by both algaes and some nuisance type anemones....going to wait till they recover then carefully chisel them off the rock if I can. OR....chisel off the nuisance stuff and leave the shrooms on the rock...

I've got time to figure that out...

this guys NOT happy at all ! spillin his guts all over the place !

A nice little clump of polythoas....*shudder*.....nasty buggers ! I break out in hives just lookin at em !

and here's some pics of the nuisance algae...not sure what kind they are...if anyone has any idea..do chime in. She said her tang loved to eat the stuff, but unfortunately.....my tanks are NOT large enough for any tang.........(pretty christmasy colors though....

)

You can also see a little red tube worm type critter in that last pic. I have a few of those in my 15.

....

Slick Fork · 12-03-2007, 07:45 AM

Those are some really nice additions.

In the last pic however, it looks like you have red flatworms on the algae. If that's the case, move quickly to get rid of them as they reproduce like crazy and will reach plague proportions in no time flat.

Sorry for the following departure from topic: Joephys, yes a phosphate reactor would be a very affordable way to kick start your battle with algae. Also a tds meter would be a good investment, they're only 20 or 30 bucks.

zanzimog · 12-03-2007, 08:59 AM

Some nice acquisitions! I am looking forward to seeing the hammer settle in and puff up.

That red algae is definitely a botryocladia species. I haven't dealt with that species, but large turbo snails love the species I have. A grazing blenny (redlip, lawnmower, etc), may also help you out.

The green hairy stuff looks like bryopsis to me, based on the branchiness and coarseness. You might try trick of raising Mg to 1500 temporarily, which seems to work for some people around here.

Those nuisance anemones are pretty. I wish they weren't so nasty.

joephys · 12-03-2007, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick Fork

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In the last pic however, it looks like you have red flatworms on the algae. If that's the case, move quickly to get rid of them as they reproduce like crazy and will reach plague proportions in no time flat.

Is there something specific you are looking at or just the red specs in general?

Quote:

Sorry for the following departure from topic: Joephys, yes a phosphate reactor would be a very affordable way to kick start your battle with algae. Also a tds meter would be a good investment, they're only 20 or 30 bucks.

lol, yeah, i am trying not to hog the thread too much.

Emg · 12-03-2007, 07:55 PM

Slick, I took a good look through a magnifier and those red specs are tiny little bubble algae, like the larger marroon bubbles. Either way, they aren't in the main tank. Those are sitting in a QT tank....with good reason....as far as the algae is concerned anyway. But...just in case.....do six line wrasse eat flatworms ?

The only corals I put in my main tank so far were the hammer and one small branch with some white star polyps on it...AFTER I scraped off the few tiny specs of the hair algae off it.

TODAY I went to see a man about some corals....hehe The science teacher at the local HS who propagates coral. He invited me over to his class to "shop".....so, I did !

This is what I picked up for about 40$

A couple of metalic pink zoas (they're under regular flourescents in my 15, so the color isn't what it should be...I think I'm moving them up to the 29 tomorrow)

A branch of some type of montipora...

This...once it opens up...will be a beautiful dark green star polyp...with light green center. Looks alot like bushy grass when you have a good clump of it...very pretty ! (WHEN it opens)

Another green star polyp type that has longer arms and will grow on the glass. I plan on putting this up on the back of the tank as a backdrop...looks awesome waving in the current !

I saved the best ones for last.....a nice clump of green zoas...

and....a VERY nice couple of clumps of frogspawn....

All and all......I'm very happy with my purchases.....he offered me some VERY nice galaxia, but.....I didn't think I had the room in my tank for one of those....they have a pretty long reach and can be somewhat aggressive.

OH YEAH !! It's my birthday...IT"S my BIRTHDAY !!

OrionGirl · 12-03-2007, 08:27 PM

That's a total steal for $40!!!

12-01-2007, 06:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	some editions The lady I was going to get the tank from, gave me some coral instead. Ironic as it would be....the guy who bought the tank, didn't really want the coral.... Just the rock and system...he was buying it for his wife for Christmas.....(yeah, RIGHT ! we all know how that goes...hehe) Anyway, I picked out a few items...and she took some out as well. She has a little 10gallon for her son that she wants to keep going. Here's what I picked....not much, just a few things. There was alot of stiff type hair algae and weird marroon bubble algae that I didn't want to add to my tanks, so I was picky...... Just some white polyp type coral and a nice trio of hammer coral ! The only hammers she had in the tank...I made a beeline for it...hehe They're still a little pouty from the move......I also picked out some yellow green colored mushroom of some type....which I havn't taken pics of yet. That stuff is on a larger rock that has the bubble and hair stuff on it....it's sitting in a 5 gallon with some polythoa type coral I picked out as well. Once it heals up and starts looking spiffy again I'll see if I can chip it off that rock before I had it to either of my tanks I also connected with the science teacher at the local HS....he has a running science project propagating coral. There's an 800 gallon tank setup somewhere at the school and LOTS of coral frags to choose from. He's invited me to see his system and do some shopping.....ooooo....can't wait ! Hope to have more coral to take pics of come Monday ! .. __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-01-2007, 07:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
wesleydnunder Resident Cannibal Join Date: May 2006 Location: La Marque, Tx. Posts: 2,345	Nice acquisitions, Emg. That tank is really lookin' sweet. Mark __________________ If it can't be fixxed with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

12-01-2007, 07:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	Thanks Mark, it is coming along nicely ! I'm looking forward to seeing what Jon has for me on Monday. I'd like to add some more colorful coral in there. I know he has a bunch of zoanthids....we'll see.... __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-01-2007, 07:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	Heck, why not....... a pic of the two tanks as they are now......minus the new coral....took this pic the other day, before I picked up the coral... __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-01-2007, 07:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
wesleydnunder Resident Cannibal Join Date: May 2006 Location: La Marque, Tx. Posts: 2,345	I'm so jealous. Mark __________________ If it can't be fixxed with a hammer, then you've got an electrical problem.

12-01-2007, 07:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	Well Mark....feed the need with a little 15 for now...... won't cost you much. I don't have any fancy equipment on that tank.....just a HOB filter (no media or anything, just for water movement), couple of motors off some intank whispers for powerheads....heater, that's it ! I LOVE the color of that coraline in the 15 ! What I have in the 29 is mostly a marroonish color with some dark type of macro growing on it. Not nearly as pretty as the purple. __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-01-2007, 07:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
joephys Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: auburn, wa Posts: 4,392	I'm jealous too, my 20 gallon is looking pretty nasty right now. I would post a pick but its Embarrassing.

12-01-2007, 07:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	How about a phosban reactor Joe ? Might give that a try.... Also...do you use tap or Ro/Di water ? Oh...do you feed frozen foods ? Check out this thread here.... Reef Central Online Community - Phosphate in frozen food __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-01-2007, 08:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
joephys Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: auburn, wa Posts: 4,392	I might try using some phosphate media. I am using RO water, but its from the grocery store water, so I don't know how good it really is. I haven't put anything back into the tank since I killed almost everything off. The only thing in there is are one or 2 hermits and 1 or 2 snails. There is plenty of algae in there for them to eat. I haven't really been doing much of anything to the tank, but the algae keeps on growing. I was thinking of adding a couple of turbo snails and seeing if they help clean things up.

12-01-2007, 10:16 PM	#10 (permalink)
OrionGirl Miss you, Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Location: California coastline Posts: 6,722	TDS meter? That will tell you if the RO/DI is good. I know the grocery store dispensers here don't get the membranes replaced often enough--the water tastes awful, which to me means something ain't right with it. __________________ ~Sheila tempus edax rerum Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good; its only necessary that, if they do fail, they do so in an interesting way. ~Robert Rosen

12-01-2007, 10:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
joephys Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: auburn, wa Posts: 4,392	Well, they put stickers on the ones here saying when they were last serviced. How well of a service is preformed, who knows. I don't have a TDS meter, maybe I should get one.

12-01-2007, 11:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
OrionGirl Miss you, Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Location: California coastline Posts: 6,722	There are stickers on the ones here. The problem? They're replaced on a calendar schedule, not on a gallon schedule. So they get replaced every 6 months--even if they quit working 6000 gallons ago. __________________ ~Sheila tempus edax rerum Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good; its only necessary that, if they do fail, they do so in an interesting way. ~Robert Rosen

12-02-2007, 02:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	I'd say it would have to be your water source Joe......maybe you should just try your tap...couldn't be any worse I suppose... Take some tap water down to an lfs and see if they'll measure your TDS for you.... __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-02-2007, 03:31 PM	#14 (permalink)
OrionGirl Miss you, Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Location: California coastline Posts: 6,722	And I'm sorry, but I have to note that I just NOW figured out that these are new additions. __________________ ~Sheila tempus edax rerum Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good; its only necessary that, if they do fail, they do so in an interesting way. ~Robert Rosen

12-02-2007, 05:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	Too funny OG...... Here's some pics of what I have in a 5 gallon qt for now. Not because I'm worried about parasites or anything.......the tank was running for 10 years with no issues of that sort. I just don't want any of that bubble or hair algae in my tanks ! a couple of somewhat unhappy shrooms....recovering from the move... These two yellows are on one rock which is inhabited by both algaes and some nuisance type anemones....going to wait till they recover then carefully chisel them off the rock if I can. OR....chisel off the nuisance stuff and leave the shrooms on the rock... I've got time to figure that out... this guys NOT happy at all ! spillin his guts all over the place ! A nice little clump of polythoas....shudder.....nasty buggers ! I break out in hives just lookin at em ! and here's some pics of the nuisance algae...not sure what kind they are...if anyone has any idea..do chime in. She said her tang loved to eat the stuff, but unfortunately.....my tanks are NOT large enough for any tang.........(pretty christmasy colors though.... ) You can also see a little red tube worm type critter in that last pic. I have a few of those in my 15. .... __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-03-2007, 07:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
Slick Fork Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Wild Rose Country Posts: 278	Those are some really nice additions. In the last pic however, it looks like you have red flatworms on the algae. If that's the case, move quickly to get rid of them as they reproduce like crazy and will reach plague proportions in no time flat. Sorry for the following departure from topic: Joephys, yes a phosphate reactor would be a very affordable way to kick start your battle with algae. Also a tds meter would be a good investment, they're only 20 or 30 bucks.

12-03-2007, 08:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
zanzimog smile! Join Date: May 2006 Location: Inside the Beltway Posts: 2,242	Some nice acquisitions! I am looking forward to seeing the hammer settle in and puff up. That red algae is definitely a botryocladia species. I haven't dealt with that species, but large turbo snails love the species I have. A grazing blenny (redlip, lawnmower, etc), may also help you out. The green hairy stuff looks like bryopsis to me, based on the branchiness and coarseness. You might try trick of raising Mg to 1500 temporarily, which seems to work for some people around here. Those nuisance anemones are pretty. I wish they weren't so nasty. __________________ XOXOXO, Dave Washington DC Area Marine Aquarist Society Hear that crazy rhythm Driving me insane Strike your partner on the bonce! Ooh, I fet no pain! -Spike Milligan

12-03-2007, 07:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
Emg Moderator Join Date: May 2006 Location: Northeastern Ct Posts: 3,260	Slick, I took a good look through a magnifier and those red specs are tiny little bubble algae, like the larger marroon bubbles. Either way, they aren't in the main tank. Those are sitting in a QT tank....with good reason....as far as the algae is concerned anyway. But...just in case.....do six line wrasse eat flatworms ? The only corals I put in my main tank so far were the hammer and one small branch with some white star polyps on it...AFTER I scraped off the few tiny specs of the hair algae off it. TODAY I went to see a man about some corals....hehe The science teacher at the local HS who propagates coral. He invited me over to his class to "shop".....so, I did ! This is what I picked up for about 40$ A couple of metalic pink zoas (they're under regular flourescents in my 15, so the color isn't what it should be...I think I'm moving them up to the 29 tomorrow) A branch of some type of montipora... This...once it opens up...will be a beautiful dark green star polyp...with light green center. Looks alot like bushy grass when you have a good clump of it...very pretty ! (WHEN it opens) Another green star polyp type that has longer arms and will grow on the glass. I plan on putting this up on the back of the tank as a backdrop...looks awesome waving in the current ! I saved the best ones for last.....a nice clump of green zoas... and....a VERY nice couple of clumps of frogspawn.... All and all......I'm very happy with my purchases.....he offered me some VERY nice galaxia, but.....I didn't think I had the room in my tank for one of those....they have a pretty long reach and can be somewhat aggressive. OH YEAH !! It's my birthday...IT"S my BIRTHDAY !! __________________ Blog of my tanks and critters....come check em out and don't forget the archives ! http://emgstanks.blogspot.com/ Eileen

12-03-2007, 08:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
OrionGirl Miss you, Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Location: California coastline Posts: 6,722	That's a total steal for $40!!! __________________ ~Sheila tempus edax rerum Ideas do not have to be correct in order to be good; its only necessary that, if they do fail, they do so in an interesting way. ~Robert Rosen

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